Thursday, December 29, 2022

How many rock stars have been knighted? (Updated December 2022)

The first rock stars to be honored by the Queen


In 1965 Beatles became the first rock stars to receive royal honors. They received MBEs in 1965. The first rock star to receive the highest honor of being knighted was Cliff Richard.   So how many British rock stars have actually been knighted.?  Eleven rock stars can rightfully be called Sir. Included among the 'Sir's' are Sir Paul McCartney, Sir Mick Jagger, Sir Cliff Richard, Sir Tom Jones   Sir Elton John, Sir Rod Stewart, Sir George Ivan Morrison (Van Morrison), Sir Ray Davies, Sir Richard Starkey, Sir Barry Gibb and now Sir Brian May. Being knighted is the highest honor, but many people (most years as many as a 1000 people) receive lesser honors each year, so a good number of famous rock and pop stars now have been honored by the realm.

Prince Charles knights Barry Gibb (AP)

As we stated above, the Beatles were given the lesser honor of MBEs in 1965, but   John Lennon and George Harrison had the misfortune of dying before anybody could get round to knighting them. Lennon famously gave back his MBE in 1969 with a note saying, “Your majesty, I am returning this MBE in protest against Britain’s involvement in the Nigeria-Biafra thing, against our support of America in Vietnam and against, "Cold Turkey" slipping down the charts. With love, John Lennon.”
 George Harrison was offered a promotion from MBE to CBE, but declined because, he would have preferred a knighthood (perhaps so he could be on par with Paul McCartney). Ringo Starr was only knighted in 2018.   Oddly enough, the late Sir George Martin, the Beatles producer was actually knighted before Ringo.
Jimmy Page was given an OBE for helping Brazilian children

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There is a Sir Mick Jagger, but no Sir Keith Richards.  Oddly, Bill Wyman has received honors but not Charlie Watt, Ronnie Wood or Mick Taylor.  Keith made fun of Jagger for accepting the knighthood.

What about Bono and Bob Geldof who are sometimes called "Sir"?  These men are   Irishman have received honorary knighthoods for their charity work. Bono was given his honor in 2007. 

Bob Geldof received his honor back in 1986. Geldof is entitled to use the post-nominal letters "KBE" but, as he is not a citizen of a Commonwealth realm, he is precluded from using the title "Sir". Regardless, the nickname "Sir Bob" has stuck, and media reports continue to refer to him as "Sir Bob Geldof".

Many   of the other notable figures of the British rock scene have been given lesser honors then the highest honor of knighthood.  The lesser honors are CBE's, LVO's, MBE's etc, but these folks were not given the honorific of "Sir". These lesser honors allow the recipients to put the type of honors they were given as initials  after their name, but no Sir or Dame before it.  

Among those who have received lesser honors are:

Robert Plant, Jimmy Page, Dave Gilmour, (but not Roger Walters), Roger Taylor (but not John Deacon or Freddie Mercury), Roger Daltrey (but not Pete Townshend), Eric Clapton (CBE), the late Robin and Maurice Gibb, Albert Hammond, Peter Asher, the late Gerry Marsden, Joan Armatrading, Annie Lennox, Mark Knopfler, Graham Nash (OBE), Marty Wilde (MBE). Rod Stewart, Phil Collins (who is an LVO), Adele, Kate Bush (CBE), and Gordon "Sting" Sumner, Damon Albarn of Blur (OBE), Tim and Neil Finn, Justin Hayward (OBE) Jools Holland of Squeeze (OBE) -though Jools is more famous for his TV work. Folk rock legends Ashley MBE) and Richard Thompson of Fairport Convention, Maddy Prior MBE, Martin Carthy MBE, and Shirley Collins MBE.  Recently, Ed Sheeran received an MBE. Bernie Taupin was given honors on the 2022 list.

David Bowie actually declined honors, as have Paul Weller, and Hank Marvin of the Shadows. 

Who else hasn't been given honours?  Ozzy Osbourne, Jeff Beck, Elvis Costello, Robbie Williams, Keith Richard, Peter Gabriel, Pete Townshend, Mick Fleetwood, John McVie, Christine McVie, Charlie Watts, Steve Winwood, Roger Waters, Peter Noone (of Herman's Hermits) and John Paul Jones are among the most noted rich stars who haven't been honored for services to the realm. As far as I know, no British punk star or new waver has been honored. Also, no American rock performers have received honors since they are not eligible for British honours.

Among the dead rock British rock stars who were never given honors are George Michael, Freddie Mercury Brian Jones, Keith Moon, Nick Drake, John Entwistle, John Bonham, and Sandy Denny.

What about Popular Music and Musical theater types?
Lionel Bart, Cameron McIntosh, Andrew Lloyd Webber (he's a Lord!)  and Tim Rice have been knighted. You can call them "Sir". Elaine Paige has been honored as well.


There have been female stars from the rock era who been honored.  In 2019, Olivia Newton-John was made a dame and given an OBE. The late Dusty Springfield was given an OBE, and as we noted above Joan Armatrading, Kate Bush, Pauline Black, Annie Lennox and   Adele have been given lesser honors than a Dame-ship. Two Spice Girls-Victoria Beckham and  Mel Brown have also been given honors.

Pop singers Shirley Bassey! and Julie Andrews were made Dames many years ago.

What about other countries honors?
Gordon Lightfoot, Paul Anka, and Joni Mitchell have received the Order of Canada.
Bob Dylan, Aretha Franklin, and Stevie Wonder are among the many people who awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom.
Reggae stars Bob Marley and Jimmy Cliff have received the Jamaican order of merit.

Why are rock stars given honors?    Many reasons are given, certainly it's true that groups like Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, The Rolling Stones and The Beatles all have done wonders for the British economy. Many of the people knighted have been artistically important.  Doing charity work helps too, but clearly being a wonderful person is not a requirement, or many rock stars would not have been honored. Also surprisingly, being a tax exile seems to have not kept stars from being honored.

Published December 2017, updated every year by J.C.Bernhardt.
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Monday, December 12, 2022

Meghan Trainor- Notable Songs that were not hits.


Meghan Trainor broke out on the pop scene in 2014 with her catchy and original mega hit, "All About the Bass".   The problem with hitting it so big with your first hit-is everything else is going to be anti-climactic, and some artists become one (or two hit wonders). Nevertheless, she managed to have genuine US top 40 hits with six other songs after "Bass". (Lips Are Moving, Dear Future Husband", "Like I'm Going to Lose You", "Marvin Gaye", "No"' and "Me Too"). But the hits dried up between 2016, and 2022.  In 2022, Meghan finally had something of a hit with "Made You Look" but the song still has underperformed in the USA.  Her lyrical and musical style can be a little too clever, and her soulful sassy voice can be little overwrought. "No" and "Me Too" are examples of how some of her songs can be a bit annoying lyrically. Unlike, other stars she does not seem to have given into the urge to let others basically write songs for her, so as to get more hits.  (She does work with other songwriters-but with the exception of her Christmas album she has written or co-written every solo song she has recorded. So here all the twelve "failed" singles that one hears from time to time on the radio and in supermarkets, they were not hits, but good enough to get some limited airplay.


Fifth Harmony (featuring Meghan Trainor)-"Brave Honest Beautiful".  IT was released in early 2015. Meghan co wrote the song and co-produced.

"Better When I'm Dancing"

This song was written with Thaddeus Dixon for The Peanuts Movie Soundtrack and released in October 2015. 

"Better"-Meghan Trainor featuring Yo Gotti

This third single from Meghan's second album (Thank You) was a modest hit on radio airplay charts in Fall 2016 but did not make the US top 100 are chart in other countries. 

"No Excuses" -Meghan Trainor

No Excuses, a very listenable song with some great hooks.  It was the lead single of her third album (Treat Myself) but only reached #46. It was released in March 2018.
"Let You Be Right"-Meghan Trainor

Intended for her third album, this another partly failed single released in May 2018, right after "No Excuses".  It did not show up on the album when it came out.  The two failed singles may have played a part in the decision to hold back the album. 



"Can't Dance"-Meghan Trainor
Released at the same Time "Let You Right". Though a video was filmed for it-it was no released.  This song sounds a little more producer driven, and is more dance oriented then some of other material.  It was not a hit-and was not featured on an album or EP.



"More Than Friends" -Jason Mraz with Meghan Trainor

Another ballad, duet similar to "Love You Like I am Going to Lose You".  Trainor was one of the four co-writers on the song.  It was on Jason's album, "Know". It was released as a single in October 2018 and charted only on the adult top 40.


"All The Ways"-Meghan Trainor

Another Meghan solo single from the sessions for third album. It as bonus track on the Target version of that album, and as one of the songs on the "Love Train" EP.   It was released in February 2019. and once again failed to make the regular Billboard Hot 100 or other nation's charts. 

"Just Got Paid"  by Sigala, Ella Eyre, and Meghan Trainor that features French Montana.

An 2018 song by Sigala, Ella Eyre, and Meghan Trainor that features French Montana. It was a hit in the UK and a few other territories. It did not make the Top 100 in the USA. The song is featured on Sigala's debut album.


Kaskade  and Meghan Trainor-"With You"

A single released in June 2019 by Kaskade  and Meghan Trainor. It was not a Billboard top 100 hit but was modest hit on the dance and adult top 40 charts. It has not shown up on an album.

Meghan Trainor-"I'm a Lady"

Her song from the Smurf's movie--Lost Village. It came out in Early 2017. Meghan cowrote the song with Martin Renea.


"Wave" -Meghan Trainor
"Wave" was an uncharacteristically ambitious song with a massive chorus.   This song was released in late 2019 three months before the Treat Myself album finally came out and was the first track on that album. It did not chart on any of the  Billboard's single's charts.



"Run Like the River" was another soundtrack song, but a very solid one.  It was released in August 2019. Another song written during the endless third album sessions.  

Meghan Trainor (featuring Nicki Minaj) -"Nice To Meet You".

Released as third single for "Treat Myself album. It came out concurrently with the album. In January 2020. It only reached #89 in the USA.

Originally posted February 2022.